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	<description>Anatoly Karlin on Eurasia, geopolitics, and peak oil</description>
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		<title>By: Will there be a New Russia-Georgia War? &#124; Sublime Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will there be a New Russia-Georgia War? &#124; Sublime Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Western Media, Craven Shills [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Russophile Core Articles &#124; Sublime Oblivion</title>
		<link>http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2008/08/10/editorial-the-western-media-craven-shills-for-their-neocon-masters/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Russophile Core Articles &#124; Sublime Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Georgian aggression against South Ossetia and Russia (I criticized their initial propaganda here), as well as Patrick Armstrong&#8217;s writings on the chronology. Watch the films War 080808: Art [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Georgian aggression against South Ossetia and Russia (I criticized their initial propaganda here), as well as Patrick Armstrong&#8217;s writings on the chronology. Watch the films War 080808: Art [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know who the readers of this &quot;unbiased&quot; and &quot;objective&quot; source of information are, however, for those who know nothing about Georgia and Russia and their hisotrical realtionships, I would like to drop few words:

1. The standpoint presented here is purely pro-russian, which of course has nothing to do with objective reality.
2. One can not blame the rest of the world (other than Russia and their slaves) for being &quot;blind&quot; and  when it comes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know who the readers of this &#8220;unbiased&#8221; and &#8220;objective&#8221; source of information are, however, for those who know nothing about Georgia and Russia and their hisotrical realtionships, I would like to drop few words:</p>
<p>1. The standpoint presented here is purely pro-russian, which of course has nothing to do with objective reality.<br />
2. One can not blame the rest of the world (other than Russia and their slaves) for being &#8220;blind&#8221; and  when it comes</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I suspected Anatoly.

The rash of advertisers is a sign of your blog&#039;s worthyness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I suspected Anatoly.</p>
<p>The rash of advertisers is a sign of your blog&#8217;s worthyness.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Post 1&lt;/strong&gt;
Re: English language mass media Spin on Russia

See - http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/
 
Be on the lookout for spin that downplays the poll result of how only 5% of Russians support an active return of Soviet symbols. 
 
People who seek to &quot;preserve&quot; symbols can do so in ways different from how some suggest. To underscore this point, in NY, there&#039;s a long running weekly military affairs show on a local radio station. The Jewish host of that show observed how a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are (as he has observed) are Jews.
 
During last year&#039;s European football (soccer) tournament, Russian fans overwhelmingly displayed current Russian symbols (the white, blue and red tricolor flag and two headed eagle) over Soviet ones.

Thean again, for some, that&#039;s bad as well.
 
****

Two different perspectives on the recent vote for Russia&#039;s most popular figure.
 
This first one falls under the category of neocon:
 
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/12/30/the-rebirth-of-the-stalin-cult/
 
Note the posted comments which come after the above posted article.
 
Overall, this one does a better job at addressing the result, relative to some of the general takes found in English language mass media:
 
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/history/31-12-2008/106884-most_popular_russian-0
  
It&#039;s nice that Pajamas Media is pretty good at posting valid criticisms. However, there&#039;s still a prevailing bias. That bias excludes certain views of the former Communist bloc from having column space. Note the columnists that Pajamas Media selects for Russia related topics. In one degree or another, that kind of a slant is evident elsewhere.

&lt;strong&gt;Post 2&lt;/strong&gt;

As a follow-up, some will understandably find the Pravda piece to be a bit overboard in hyperbole.

That aside, it serves as a counterweight to the mentioned Pajamas Media piece.

&lt;strong&gt;Post 3, 4&lt;/strong&gt;

For whatever reason, it appears (at least as of now) that the last of my two recent posts has been posted before the first one.

Offhand, I suspect it has to do with the length and links of the first submitted post. At present, the first post is in the “awaiting moderation” category.

Pardon misspells and stilted prose. Something came up as I was posting.


&lt;b&gt;AK responds&lt;/b&gt;: Thank you for your comments, Mike. As always you are at the forefront of challenging Russophobic stereotypes.

I&#039;ve merged your posts together. You&#039;re correct the moderation thing - if there&#039;s more than 2 links in a comment, it has to be approved. This is because when I first moved the site here there was a troublesome rash of advertisers whose only &quot;contribution&quot; was to write posts full of links to commercial sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Post 1</strong><br />
Re: English language mass media Spin on Russia</p>
<p>See &#8211; <a href="http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/</a></p>
<p>Be on the lookout for spin that downplays the poll result of how only 5% of Russians support an active return of Soviet symbols. </p>
<p>People who seek to &#8220;preserve&#8221; symbols can do so in ways different from how some suggest. To underscore this point, in NY, there&#8217;s a long running weekly military affairs show on a local radio station. The Jewish host of that show observed how a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are (as he has observed) are Jews.</p>
<p>During last year&#8217;s European football (soccer) tournament, Russian fans overwhelmingly displayed current Russian symbols (the white, blue and red tricolor flag and two headed eagle) over Soviet ones.</p>
<p>Thean again, for some, that&#8217;s bad as well.</p>
<p>****</p>
<p>Two different perspectives on the recent vote for Russia&#8217;s most popular figure.</p>
<p>This first one falls under the category of neocon:</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/12/30/the-rebirth-of-the-stalin-cult/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/12/30/the-rebirth-of-the-stalin-cult/</a></p>
<p>Note the posted comments which come after the above posted article.</p>
<p>Overall, this one does a better job at addressing the result, relative to some of the general takes found in English language mass media:</p>
<p><a href="http://english.pravda.ru/russia/history/31-12-2008/106884-most_popular_russian-0" rel="nofollow">http://english.pravda.ru/russia/history/31-12-2008/106884-most_popular_russian-0</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice that Pajamas Media is pretty good at posting valid criticisms. However, there&#8217;s still a prevailing bias. That bias excludes certain views of the former Communist bloc from having column space. Note the columnists that Pajamas Media selects for Russia related topics. In one degree or another, that kind of a slant is evident elsewhere.</p>
<p><strong>Post 2</strong></p>
<p>As a follow-up, some will understandably find the Pravda piece to be a bit overboard in hyperbole.</p>
<p>That aside, it serves as a counterweight to the mentioned Pajamas Media piece.</p>
<p><strong>Post 3, 4</strong></p>
<p>For whatever reason, it appears (at least as of now) that the last of my two recent posts has been posted before the first one.</p>
<p>Offhand, I suspect it has to do with the length and links of the first submitted post. At present, the first post is in the “awaiting moderation” category.</p>
<p>Pardon misspells and stilted prose. Something came up as I was posting.</p>
<p><b>AK responds</b>: Thank you for your comments, Mike. As always you are at the forefront of challenging Russophobic stereotypes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve merged your posts together. You&#8217;re correct the moderation thing &#8211; if there&#8217;s more than 2 links in a comment, it has to be approved. This is because when I first moved the site here there was a troublesome rash of advertisers whose only &#8220;contribution&#8221; was to write posts full of links to commercial sites.</p>
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		<title>By: nikolayr4</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikolayr4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stalker, I enjoy your blog. Just one point of advise. When you make a factual statement and link it to a source, please do not use Wikipedia. Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable and if your info is referenced only to Wikipedia rather than to a better source, it looks less rather than more credible. Just a suggestion. Thanks! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stalker, I enjoy your blog. Just one point of advise. When you make a factual statement and link it to a source, please do not use Wikipedia. Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable and if your info is referenced only to Wikipedia rather than to a better source, it looks less rather than more credible. Just a suggestion. Thanks! </p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all tv claimed that russia destroy the civil airport in georgia but no one talks about at that time special forces of georgia from Iraq were landing on that airport. They are transported with us aircraft, so did you see anyone which is criticizing us to become a partner of war while mr. bush saying &quot;calm down russia&quot; does anyone talk about foundation of usa, bulgaria, ukraine and turkey to georgian army. does anyone talk about how a country organize a military attack to its autonomous region? can anyone talked about who triggerd the war? In fact we know them well from lebanon, palestine, iraq... Perfectly well. &lt;br/&gt;ali-Turkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all tv claimed that russia destroy the civil airport in georgia but no one talks about at that time special forces of georgia from Iraq were landing on that airport. They are transported with us aircraft, so did you see anyone which is criticizing us to become a partner of war while mr. bush saying &#8220;calm down russia&#8221; does anyone talk about foundation of usa, bulgaria, ukraine and turkey to georgian army. does anyone talk about how a country organize a military attack to its autonomous region? can anyone talked about who triggerd the war? In fact we know them well from lebanon, palestine, iraq&#8230; Perfectly well. <br />ali-Turkey</p>
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		<title>By: Da Russophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da Russophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the replies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They are encouraging because they prove that independent thinkers remain, not all having already  turned into consumerist zombies drived by fear, greed and hatred as the neocons would wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the replies.</p>
<p>They are encouraging because they prove that independent thinkers remain, not all having already  turned into consumerist zombies drived by fear, greed and hatred as the neocons would wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We in the U.S. have no patience for getting involved in any more military actions.  Let the Russians off themselves if they please.  We have a recession and drawn out war in Iraq to overcome.  If you think this lame-duck president can spend any more political capital on meddling in yet another stupid war, you are out of your mind.  The situation here in the U.S. looks bleak and might remain as such for a few more years.  Time for the rest of the world to pick up their own slack and handle their own problems!  I frankly don&#039;t care who kills themselves over there in Russia or for what reason.  If we would get involved we would end up losing tons of money and being hated in the end by the most of the world no matter the result.  So we&#039;re better off just turning our backs on this one.  Go ahead Russia, put the hammer down on Georgia and exert your authority.  Georgia on the other hand, learn to live with what you&#039;ll be left with and shut up or face getting your butt whipped even further!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We in the U.S. have no patience for getting involved in any more military actions.  Let the Russians off themselves if they please.  We have a recession and drawn out war in Iraq to overcome.  If you think this lame-duck president can spend any more political capital on meddling in yet another stupid war, you are out of your mind.  The situation here in the U.S. looks bleak and might remain as such for a few more years.  Time for the rest of the world to pick up their own slack and handle their own problems!  I frankly don&#8217;t care who kills themselves over there in Russia or for what reason.  If we would get involved we would end up losing tons of money and being hated in the end by the most of the world no matter the result.  So we&#8217;re better off just turning our backs on this one.  Go ahead Russia, put the hammer down on Georgia and exert your authority.  Georgia on the other hand, learn to live with what you&#8217;ll be left with and shut up or face getting your butt whipped even further!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Ted Baehr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Ted Baehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll get my news from WorldNetDaily, thank you very much. And if I want a history lesson, I have the Bible. Russia and Georgia deserve each other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I&#039;m off to watch men&#039;s Olympic gymnastics, and masterbate furiously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll get my news from WorldNetDaily, thank you very much. And if I want a history lesson, I have the Bible. Russia and Georgia deserve each other.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m off to watch men&#8217;s Olympic gymnastics, and masterbate furiously.</p>
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