Comments on: Translation: Confessions of a Russian “Liberal” Part 2 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/ Anatoly Karlin on Eurasia, geopolitics, and peak oil Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:41:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: False Dmitry http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-671 False Dmitry Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:28:41 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-671 Hi AK, It's not immediately related to the topic of the post, but I couldn't refrain from sharing the following quote with you, since your blog seems to be devoted to dissemination of the Truth. From the book "Mobs, Messiahs, and Markets: Surviving the Public Spectacle in Fiance and Politics" by William Bonner and Lila Rajiva that I am reading right now. Here it is: "People occasionally appreciate the truth in the same way they appreciate a good joke. It breaks the monotony. But it is to falsehood that they look to organize their lives. Myths stick to them like burrs to a sweater ..." Cheers, False Dmitry Hi AK,

It’s not immediately related to the topic of the post, but I couldn’t refrain from sharing the following quote with you, since your blog seems to be devoted to dissemination of the Truth.

From the book “Mobs, Messiahs, and Markets: Surviving the Public Spectacle in Fiance and Politics” by William Bonner and Lila Rajiva that I am reading right now. Here it is:

“People occasionally appreciate the truth in the same way they appreciate a good joke. It breaks the monotony. But it is to falsehood that they look to organize their lives. Myths stick to them like burrs to a sweater …”

Cheers, False Dmitry

]]> By: AK http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-635 AK Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:43:16 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-635 That's a good idea, Fedia. Guess it would have to be either that or the economy on Saturday. :) That’s a good idea, Fedia.

Guess it would have to be either that or the economy on Saturday. :)

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]]> By: Fedia Kriukov http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-627 Fedia Kriukov Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:41:38 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-627 Great job on the translation! It would be nice if you went beyond it, though, and wrote something analytical about the sad state of the Russian "liberal" opposition in general. About their make-believe world where they imagine Kremlin "brigadniki", and then believe their own imagination to such an extent, that they in fact create "brigadniki" of their own. And manage to prove just how absurd the idea is in practice. :) Great job on the translation!

It would be nice if you went beyond it, though, and wrote something analytical about the sad state of the Russian “liberal” opposition in general. About their make-believe world where they imagine Kremlin “brigadniki”, and then believe their own imagination to such an extent, that they in fact create “brigadniki” of their own. And manage to prove just how absurd the idea is in practice. :)

]]> By: Jueri http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-623 Jueri Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:27:49 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-623 A red pill indeed, Soros is widely suspected of this sort of thing as are many of the other NGOs. One startling quote from Berezovsky's right hand man, you can see it being said in Adam Cutis' film "Russian Godfathers" is: "You know you work behind the scenes and do things and suddenly people are in the streets, that's amazing. It's like science you know. We do the experiment in test tubes and a little tinkering and then something big comes out of it." -- Alex Goldfarb A red pill indeed, Soros is widely suspected of this sort of thing as are many of the other NGOs.
One startling quote from Berezovsky’s right hand man, you can see it being said in Adam Cutis’ film “Russian Godfathers” is:
“You know you work behind the scenes and do things and suddenly people are in the streets, that’s amazing. It’s like science you know. We do the experiment in test tubes and a little tinkering and then something big comes out of it.”
– Alex Goldfarb

]]> By: AK http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-622 AK Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:23:17 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-622 It's funny that you mention Soros. From her <a href="http://tanya-ogf.livejournal.com/202618.html" rel="nofollow">latest post</a> on March 7th: Гранты - это вообще отдельная тема. Например есть у нас в крае газета, позиционирующая себя как оппозиционная, которая живет за счет Сороса. А ведь кто дает гранты, тот грантополучателей и танцует, так ведь? Так. А потому предположить, что американским миллиардерам нужно, чтобы у нас на ДВ не торговали людьми, или дети не употребляли бы наркотики, я не могу. Ибо если бы им это было бы и вправду надо, тогда не были бы эти грантораздавательские процессы такими закрытыми, чтобы в них могли участвовать лишь особо приближенные к власти люди. Talks of her suspicions about the opacity with which shadowy American billionaires like Soros give out grants to the local authorities, ostensibly for preventing people trafficking and drug abuse. The reasoning goes, why make it so secret if you want the process to be effective and transparent? This must all have been quite a rude awakening for her. It’s funny that you mention Soros.

From her latest post on March 7th:

Гранты – это вообще отдельная тема. Например есть у нас в крае газета, позиционирующая себя как оппозиционная, которая живет за счет Сороса.
А ведь кто дает гранты, тот грантополучателей и танцует, так ведь? Так.
А потому предположить, что американским миллиардерам нужно, чтобы у нас на ДВ не торговали людьми, или дети не употребляли бы наркотики, я не могу.
Ибо если бы им это было бы и вправду надо, тогда не были бы эти грантораздавательские процессы такими закрытыми, чтобы в них могли участвовать лишь особо приближенные к власти люди.

Talks of her suspicions about the opacity with which shadowy American billionaires like Soros give out grants to the local authorities, ostensibly for preventing people trafficking and drug abuse. The reasoning goes, why make it so secret if you want the process to be effective and transparent?

This must all have been quite a rude awakening for her.

]]> By: Jueri http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-620 Jueri Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:10:33 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-620 Understood, but I'd like to see more, especially if there is a Soros or similar connections. Again, thanks for your work. I've come to consider that tanks, armies and wars are mere props for information war. I'd certainly feel different if I was being bombed, but you know what I mean. Understood, but I’d like to see more, especially if there is a Soros or similar connections. Again, thanks for your work.

I’ve come to consider that tanks, armies and wars are mere props for information war. I’d certainly feel different if I was being bombed, but you know what I mean.

]]> By: AK http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-619 AK Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:06:35 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-619 Jueri, Just to avoid any misunderstandings, it was <i>she</i> who wrote "to be continued". :) The translation itself is complete. So hopefully we'll see some more juicy leaks in the future... Jueri,
Just to avoid any misunderstandings, it was she who wrote “to be continued”. :) The translation itself is complete. So hopefully we’ll see some more juicy leaks in the future…

]]> By: Jueri http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2009/03/09/translation-confessions-of-russian-liberal-2/#comment-618 Jueri Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:30:08 +0000 http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/?p=751#comment-618 Fascinating account of the infowar. I've come across such groups, some are unfinanced and spontaneous, others, like this one, obviously with some money and method behind them. An alternate problem is that once exposed they do damage to all opposition forces, including the honest ones. Thanks for your work on the translation, I see it ends with "... to be continued". Fascinating account of the infowar. I’ve come across such groups,
some are unfinanced and spontaneous, others, like this one, obviously
with some money and method behind them.

An alternate problem is that once exposed they do damage to all
opposition forces, including the honest ones.

Thanks for your work on the translation, I see it ends with “… to be continued”.

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