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		<title>By: YS-Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2010/03/28/korean-war-2/#comment-20251</link>
		<dc:creator>YS-Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, any attempt of a DPRK invasion on the ROK is bound to fail and will almost certainly guarantee a demise to the current regime. For more specific details regarding 2020, the ROK will have by then produced hundreds, if not thousands of their new K2 Black Panther MBTs, mostly or entirely replaced any of their remaining older US equipment (artillery, F4 and F5 fighter jets, M48 and the such, ) and if things go well, their current on-going development of KF-X stealth fighter program (joint with the Indonesians) would be in active service. Not to mention the ROK Air Force is also planning to procure stealth fighter jets before 2020 itself - for their F-X Phase 3 Program,  given the option whether to pick the F-35 Lightning II, Sukhoi PAKFA or the F-15 Silent Eagle - the decision is to be made later this year.

The DPRK&#039;s boasts on special forces is exaggerated, at least in my opinion. Since the DPRK lacks the logistics, industry, training and the such, there&#039;s no doubt it will also have an effect on their SF - no matter how large it is. I suspect at least one South Korean 707th SMU operative is the equivalent of several North Korean SF - against the Navy SEALs, Delta Force, Green Berets, CIA Special Activities Division etc. it&#039;s a no-brainer. The North&#039;s SF also would be much more far behind in the whole network support details and wouldn&#039;t be able to operate as flexibly. 

Aside from surrendering and/or bribery, there&#039;s also a possibility of entire North Korean companies, battalions, regiments/brigades and even divisions changing sides - especially since many are lacking food, yet alone something that&#039;s worth filling their stomachs. Discipline would be difficult to maintain in the heat of fighting a better-equipped and similarly numerous opposition, especially if food shortages are rampant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, any attempt of a DPRK invasion on the ROK is bound to fail and will almost certainly guarantee a demise to the current regime. For more specific details regarding 2020, the ROK will have by then produced hundreds, if not thousands of their new K2 Black Panther MBTs, mostly or entirely replaced any of their remaining older US equipment (artillery, F4 and F5 fighter jets, M48 and the such, ) and if things go well, their current on-going development of KF-X stealth fighter program (joint with the Indonesians) would be in active service. Not to mention the ROK Air Force is also planning to procure stealth fighter jets before 2020 itself &#8211; for their F-X Phase 3 Program,  given the option whether to pick the F-35 Lightning II, Sukhoi PAKFA or the F-15 Silent Eagle &#8211; the decision is to be made later this year.</p>
<p>The DPRK&#8217;s boasts on special forces is exaggerated, at least in my opinion. Since the DPRK lacks the logistics, industry, training and the such, there&#8217;s no doubt it will also have an effect on their SF &#8211; no matter how large it is. I suspect at least one South Korean 707th SMU operative is the equivalent of several North Korean SF &#8211; against the Navy SEALs, Delta Force, Green Berets, CIA Special Activities Division etc. it&#8217;s a no-brainer. The North&#8217;s SF also would be much more far behind in the whole network support details and wouldn&#8217;t be able to operate as flexibly. </p>
<p>Aside from surrendering and/or bribery, there&#8217;s also a possibility of entire North Korean companies, battalions, regiments/brigades and even divisions changing sides &#8211; especially since many are lacking food, yet alone something that&#8217;s worth filling their stomachs. Discipline would be difficult to maintain in the heat of fighting a better-equipped and similarly numerous opposition, especially if food shortages are rampant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all wars here in the U.S are populare by the people at large espically the Iraq war but people are stupid sometimes espically when it comes to the party system here in the States. Being that if my father voted republican then I will for them. I would only hope that if a war happened in Korea that the U.S will keep its word to S. Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all wars here in the U.S are populare by the people at large espically the Iraq war but people are stupid sometimes espically when it comes to the party system here in the States. Being that if my father voted republican then I will for them. I would only hope that if a war happened in Korea that the U.S will keep its word to S. Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not fully agree with your the statement, The reason being is we have to ask our selves how far is the U.S welling to go in order to help South Korea? 
The answer is in fact quit complecated; in dealing with the two party system over here.
If the Republicans rule I could see some help but not much even though they are warmonger they don not consider South Korea in much light or importants, However if the Demoricats or in power it might be different it is hard to say so in reality you are most right even though I wish you were wrong.
P.S It also depends on factors such as how far china is welling to go as well. Since I know so little about China I can not state what I think on this part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not fully agree with your the statement, The reason being is we have to ask our selves how far is the U.S welling to go in order to help South Korea?<br />
The answer is in fact quit complecated; in dealing with the two party system over here.<br />
If the Republicans rule I could see some help but not much even though they are warmonger they don not consider South Korea in much light or importants, However if the Demoricats or in power it might be different it is hard to say so in reality you are most right even though I wish you were wrong.<br />
P.S It also depends on factors such as how far china is welling to go as well. Since I know so little about China I can not state what I think on this part.</p>
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		<title>By: WillisHadrinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillisHadrinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 23:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic read, but a crucial flaw. I think it is wrong to suppose that a unified Korea is in the U.S.&#039;s interests. With Korea divided, this gives the US legitimacy to station troops, and to establish a strong geo-stratigic anchor in the North Pacific region. This is contrary to your point which believes that China would get involved on account of preventing &quot;a dagger into their heartlands&quot;. A unified Korea, over time, would need no reason to station a foreign power&#039;s troops there. China would inevitably benefit from a unified Korea, because ultimately over time their trade relations would evolve significantly and inevitably South Korea would grow a stronger and more important relation with China than with the US. South Korea is strong as is, imagine if it was unified. The United States benefits from a divided Korea, with a hostile hermit kingdom ran by pseudo maniacs. This instability is like a black hole for global powers to get sucked in to. With South Korea needing American troops in their country it not only provides this essential geo-pivotal anchor, but also acts as a buffer between Japan and China, (which could, in a way, undermine US supremacy in the region if they were to ever seek a economic alliance.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic read, but a crucial flaw. I think it is wrong to suppose that a unified Korea is in the U.S.&#8217;s interests. With Korea divided, this gives the US legitimacy to station troops, and to establish a strong geo-stratigic anchor in the North Pacific region. This is contrary to your point which believes that China would get involved on account of preventing &#8220;a dagger into their heartlands&#8221;. A unified Korea, over time, would need no reason to station a foreign power&#8217;s troops there. China would inevitably benefit from a unified Korea, because ultimately over time their trade relations would evolve significantly and inevitably South Korea would grow a stronger and more important relation with China than with the US. South Korea is strong as is, imagine if it was unified. The United States benefits from a divided Korea, with a hostile hermit kingdom ran by pseudo maniacs. This instability is like a black hole for global powers to get sucked in to. With South Korea needing American troops in their country it not only provides this essential geo-pivotal anchor, but also acts as a buffer between Japan and China, (which could, in a way, undermine US supremacy in the region if they were to ever seek a economic alliance.)</p>
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		<title>By: Euvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 02:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wow
Bullshit.  I&#039;m a Korean, and although some of us may not like the American troops stationed there, we hate the &#039;Communist&#039; Chinese even more.  America will not renege on the military alliance, as we serve an important part of keeping the Chinese in check.  If South Korea does defeat the North, a transitional government would probably be set up under the guidance of the South Korean Government until the North becomes better equipped for a unification.  As long as America stays by our side, Korea will never join China.  Throughout thousands of years, China has barely done anything good for Korea.  America has saved us from the communists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wow<br />
Bullshit.  I&#8217;m a Korean, and although some of us may not like the American troops stationed there, we hate the &#8216;Communist&#8217; Chinese even more.  America will not renege on the military alliance, as we serve an important part of keeping the Chinese in check.  If South Korea does defeat the North, a transitional government would probably be set up under the guidance of the South Korean Government until the North becomes better equipped for a unification.  As long as America stays by our side, Korea will never join China.  Throughout thousands of years, China has barely done anything good for Korea.  America has saved us from the communists.</p>
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		<title>By: a person</title>
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		<dc:creator>a person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Korean reunification will be unlikely and hard. But if they successfully reunify, things that happen in the video game Homefront will be extremely unlikely. But the Koreans will not view the U.S as enemies but rather allies because they reunified the Koreas and created a lasting peace. Korea will possibly have a new capital but they will possibly have a crappy economy. The reunified Korea will be democratic but there will be former KPA troops fighting to the death just to divide the Koreas again. But this is very unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Korean reunification will be unlikely and hard. But if they successfully reunify, things that happen in the video game Homefront will be extremely unlikely. But the Koreans will not view the U.S as enemies but rather allies because they reunified the Koreas and created a lasting peace. Korea will possibly have a new capital but they will possibly have a crappy economy. The reunified Korea will be democratic but there will be former KPA troops fighting to the death just to divide the Koreas again. But this is very unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: sinotibetan</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinotibetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Studies have shown that North Korea will cease to be a viable state by 2020, it’s military so decreped by that time that any invasion of the ROK would be laughable suicide. But here’s the danger…Kim’s most die hard military generals may opt that suicide is worth it and may go all for broke with invasion.&quot;

Possible. But then I think no one really knows the true state of the ruling elites in North Korea. Although many political analysts have predicted an imminent collapse of the North Korean state, reality has dismissed their predictions. We shall see if these &#039;studies&#039; are right in 2020.

sinotibetan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Studies have shown that North Korea will cease to be a viable state by 2020, it’s military so decreped by that time that any invasion of the ROK would be laughable suicide. But here’s the danger…Kim’s most die hard military generals may opt that suicide is worth it and may go all for broke with invasion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Possible. But then I think no one really knows the true state of the ruling elites in North Korea. Although many political analysts have predicted an imminent collapse of the North Korean state, reality has dismissed their predictions. We shall see if these &#8216;studies&#8217; are right in 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No chance.
South Korea, even by itself, has the capability to defeat North Korea in a protracted war. For a start the DPRK only has a 3 months fuel supply for its military even by generous estimates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No chance.<br />
South Korea, even by itself, has the capability to defeat North Korea in a protracted war. For a start the DPRK only has a 3 months fuel supply for its military even by generous estimates.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 100% agreed with this assessment.

China is a key player and it will do its utmost to prevent North Korea from blowing off - at least until the balance of power in East Asia definitively shifts in its favor from the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% agreed with this assessment.</p>
<p>China is a key player and it will do its utmost to prevent North Korea from blowing off &#8211; at least until the balance of power in East Asia definitively shifts in its favor from the US.</p>
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