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				<title>xcas on "Destabilizing Xinjiang?"</title>
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				<title>solar sun on "Make your 2010 Predictions!"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><p>1) The world economy will go up then down once the bailout money has ran out and the bubble pops.</p>
<p>2) Main target of US policy will be Russia not directly but indirectly so I expect there will be increased tensions in the Caucasus with increased terror attacks and US/British backing of Crimean Tatars with conflict between the Tatars and Russians. </p>
<p>This is the year you will start to see a lot of documentaries, TV programs, articles in the press, maybe a movie at the end of the year, etc about Communist crimes in the USSR especially Stalin and the WW2 era.<br />
Maybe I should start a thread with a counter listing the various articles, TV about Communist crimes in the media in 2010.  </p>
<p>3) US will start a major push into Central Asia so I expect the flow of drugs to increase in the region from Afghanistan with increase in violence in Xinjing and maybe Tibet. The major flash point will be the Fergana Valley and destabilisation of Uzbekistan.  </p>
<p>4) Sarah Palin will be promoted as the Republican opposition and in 2012 where the main foreign policy issue will be conflict with Russia and Palin will be promoted as Reagan with tits and win the election.  </p>
<p>Viktor Yanukovych will win the election in Ukraine and Britain, US and EU/Soros organisations will do everything possible to disrupt his presidency (smear campaigns in the press, organised nationalist and marches and protests although the western media will refer to them as simply the opposition.      </p>
<p>UK politics will be as boring as ever  </p>
<p>5) US/Israel will support opposition to the current government in Turkey with Turkey supporting oil and gas transit routes from Russia and cooperation with Iran for oil and gas which is vital to Nabucco after the failed Mossad coup attempt (which surprisingly got little attention even on the internet).  </p>
<p>6) I had other predictions but I forgot what they are.
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				<title>Anatoly Karlin on "Make your 2010 Predictions!"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Happy New Year! My vision is posted at <a href="http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2010/01/04/2010-predictions/">New Year Special: Year in Review and 2010 Predictions</a>.</p>
<p>Please use this thread to do your own forecasting / crystal-ball gazing.</p>
<p><blockquote>1) World economy continues an anemic recovery, though there are significant risks to the downside.</p>
<p>2) Obama’s honeymoon period is over, his approval ratings are on the downslide, and his major domestic and foreign policy initiatives have almost all failed. Republicans will carry the mid-term elections in 2010, but there is a strong mood of apathy and a sense that what is really needed is a new party, a new politics – though this will only start playing a great role in the post-Obama, or post-2012, era. Rising violence in Iraq (perhaps abetted by Iran, to demonstrate to the US the dangers of attacking it); a false quiet in Afghanistan, as the Taleban limit activity to conserve their strength while the US presence in Afghanistan is strong (they know the Americans will retreat the bulk of their forces soon enough anyway).</p>
<p>In the UK, Gordon Brown (New Labour) will almost certainly lose to James Cameron (Conservatives) in the mid-2010 elections.</p>
<p>3) Possible wars. Foremost looms the shadow of Iran and the bomb, of course. I doubt the US will attack in 2010, unless Israel forces its hand. It will first exhaust its options with sanctions, etc, which will almost certainly be ineffective. The Iranian IRGC-linked hardliners in power (figurehead – Ahmadinejad), under pressure from the Rafsanjani / Mousavi clerical clan, will not yield, and will remain defiant internationally to justify increasing their hold on internal power. There will be tension, but no war – especially since the US still needs to develop its Massive Ordnance Penetrator, the next-generation bunker-buster, to have a high level of confidence that a bombing raid on Iranian nuclear installations have truly done their job. (True, postponing the strike to 2011 or 2012 makes the world economy more vulnerable to disruption because oil prices will be higher then and oil supplies tighter, but then again I highly doubt the administration takes “peak oil” into consideration in its strategic planning). Likelihood: 25%; Severity: 6.</p>
<p>What is much more likely to happen is a new war between Israel and Hezbollah. Since 2006, Israel may have infiltrated Hezbollah, aided by internal splits within the organization, and has taken stock of lessons learned during the unsuccessful last war; it may now want to send a signal to Iran and preemptively incapacitate one of its most effective means for retaliating against Israel into the bargain. Israeli special forces are more than capable of producing a false flag, even if Hezbollah refrains from doing it for them. Furthermore, Hezbollah is causing Saudi Arabia trouble by sending fighters and weapons to the Shia insurgency in Yemen fighting the Saudis; SA would appreciate an Israeli crippling attack on Hezbollah, and may give concessions to Israel, such as allowing it to use its airspace in a strike against Iran (the US has said it will shoot down Israeli planes flying to Iran over Iraq). This further increases the incentives for Israel to pummel Hezbollah, this time round with a real, large-scale ground invasion. Likelihood: 50%; Severity: 3.</p>
<p>A new Russia-Georgia war remains a serious possibility, if Saakashvili uses his rapidly rebuilding military forces to make another megalomaniac lunge at reclaiming South Ossetia, or if Russia orchestrates a false flag to give itself the justification to roll in the tanks to Tbilisi and set up a puppet regime. In the latter case, the “new cold war” atmosphere of August 2008 will begin to appear to be distinctly jovial. Likelihood: 10%; Severity: 4.</p>
<p>Finally, we should note that a) Azerbaijan and Armenia have a bitter rivalry, cultural and geographic over the Armenian-populated and -occupied Azeri enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, b) though it lost a war to Armenia in the early 1990’s, Azerbaijan has been implementing a rapid military modernization since 2006 with the help of oil pipeline transit revenue from the BTC, and its military budget alone is now equivalent to Armenia’s entire state budget, c) Armenia and Turkey are slowly moving towards a reconciliation under Russian brokerage, which threatens Azerbaijan’s strategic position, and d) Armenian-Azeri talks over Nagorno-Karabakh have recently collapsed. The obstacle to war is that Turkey and the US, though friendly with Azerbaijan, are very unlikely to give it direct support; but Armenia is in the CSTO military alliance with Russia. An Azeri attack will almost certainly lead to a decisive Russian response, furthermore there is a large Russian military base in Gyumri, Armenia. Unlike Saakashvili, Aliyev is a rational leader, and for now Russian and Turkey have a mutual interest in keeping things contained. That said, the possibility of a new war cannot be fully discounted – especially if it is simultaneous with the chaos unleashed by a US-Israeli war with Iran and its proxies.</p>
<p>Expect instability, but not collapse, in Pakistan, Egypt, Mexico, some or all of the Baltic states. Despite the occasional rhetoric, there is very little chance of a new Korean war, a Venezuela-Colombia war, or an Israel-Syria war.</p>
<p>4) Given that Russia’s demography has continued improving even in 2009, a year of deep economic contraction and scare stories (false) of an abortion apocalypse, it is almost certain that it will continue improving further in 2010 and that the year will see the first year of positive population growth since 1994 (or 2009). Birth rate = 12.5-13.0 (reasons), Death rate = 13.5-14.0 (a reason), Net Migration = 1.5-2.0, all / 1000. Economic growth of around 3-5% of GDP sounds reasonable. Lots of privatizations and corruption investigations as part of the Surkov clan’s struggle against the siliviki and “their” state companies. Ukraine under Yanukovych will join Eurasec or the Russia-Belarus-Kazakhstan customs union, but is yet unlikely to join the CSTO or give Russian 2nd language status.</p>
<p>5) Oil production in 2010 will be around the same as 2009 – increased demand will collide with geological depletion to keep output stable. Oil prices in H1 will remain at 70-90$, and will rise to 90-110$ in H2 on the basis that background geological depletion will be cancelled out by OPEC going back on its 2009 production cuts to fuel the ongoing global recovery. Of course, if there are serious confrontations with Iran, the oil price will veer right off the historical charts.</p>
<p>6) No major AGW-related physical events (except for a heatwave or two), given that solar irradiation remains at an unusually long trough – expect the fireworks by 2012-15. AGW skepticism will become more popular in the wake of Climategate. China and its proxies will prevent any more significant action being taken at the next UN climate change summit in Mexico, than was “achieved” in Copenhagen. By year-end the performance of the world’s top supercomputer will exceed 3 petaflops (repeat of 2009 prediction).</p>
<p>7) China’s growth will slow from around 8% in 2009, to perhaps 5% in 2010 as it cuts back on the loose credit in recognition of the problems this is going to create further down the line (this is already happening). Otherwise, expect China to continue keeping a low profile as the US insists on shooting itself in the foot.</blockquote>
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				<title>solar sun on "Destabilizing Xinjiang?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><p>It seems the US and its NATO cohorts are working full time to destabilise Xinjing through there international Islamic terror network which the West and NATO call &#34;Al Qaeda&#34; who we are supposed to be fighting. That&#39;s why we are in Afghanistan to fight Islamic militants but to secure there passage into Central Asia. This is part of the strategy to cut of oil supply routes into China and force a confrontation between China and Russia. A classic Brezinski strategy.<br />
The Grand Chessboard is in full swing.</p>
<p><blockquote>That Al Qaeda still invokes attention of the globe in its pronouncements of Jehad is corroborated with its call for a new front of Jehad against China. Abu Yahya al-Libi, a Libyan national and a top ranking leader of the radical organization, in Arabic broadcast on 8 October 2009 called for Jehad against China’s “oppression and injustice.” The Al Qaeda leader accused China of suppressing the right of minority Uighurs in its Xinjiang province. Expectedly, the Chinese reaction was sharp and confident that with the international cooperation it is capable enough to tackle the terror menace in its far western province. The recent Al Qaeda call for Jehad in fact reflects a deeper malaise that afflicts multiethnic and pluralistic societies in the world.</p>
<p>The Al Qaeda pronouncement reflects the organization’s machination for escalation of violence by invoking religious extremist sentiments. It also reflects resolve of the organization to challenge the might of rising China. At the same time the Chinese resolve to fight the menace, and to take steps to address the minority issue reflect the Chinese apprehension that the pronouncement may cause further trouble in its far west. A court at Shaoguan in southern China on 10 October 2009 delivered death sentence to a Han Chinese for the brawl which reportedly had caused the July 2009 unrest in Urumuqi, the capital of Xinjiang. In this brawl in July two Uighur workers were beaten to death. The verdict is seen widely as a corrective action to address the concerns of the Uighur Muslims. </p>
<p>The July 2009 violence in Urumuqi had led to death of about 200 people with more than a thousand injured. The Al Qaeda as a matter of ‘co-religionist’ concern took up the issue into its hand, and called for ‘reprisals’ against the Chinese actions. In the same month the north African arm of Al Qaeda called Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) had given a call to target Chinese installations in Africa particularly in Algeria, in which about fifty thousand Chinese workers are engaged in commercial activities. As a result the Chinese government had to issue an alert to its citizens in that country. It is important to mention that China which is a rapidly rising power, with huge investments in oil and gas in African countries, has to confront the issue with serious concern. The Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, Ma Zhaoxu, while rejecting Al Qaeda’s theory of suppression, argued “Xinjiang has fully implemented the policies of equality of all ethnic minorities and religious freedom.” While the radical Uighur leaders allege suppression of their rights and deprivation from opportunities, the Chinese government has argued in the contrary by saying there is equality among citizens throughout its territory. In fact, the Chinese government has become increasingly apprehensive of the separatist movements in its territory, particularly after the Tibetan violence in 2008, and the July 2009 violence in Xinjiang. China’s defence white paper of 2008 has strongly taken exception to these separatist tendencies and vowed to punish the elements that support or are involved in separatist activities. </p>
<p>The location of Xinjiang in the Central Eurasian matrix adds to its fragile nature. Having common borders with Central Asian states of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, the region sits within a violent political and religious volcano. The turmoil in Afghanistan too contributes to the volatile scenario. With the NATO onslaught in Afghanistan the terrorists have proliferated to other regions of Central Asia. The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is a case in point. The extremist organization with links with Al Qaeda has aimed at Islamisation of the whole region. In fact the terror networks in Central Eurasia spread from the North Caucasus region to further south to Central Asia to Xinjiang, and further downwards towards Kashmir. <strong>In can be noted the deceased Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev had visited Xinjiang to widen the radical fraternity in Central Eurasia</strong>. The call of Libi to Muslims “to stand by the side of their wounded and wronged brothers in East Turkestan (referring to Xinjiang)” is an addition to this radical agenda of Al Qaeda to challenge multiethnic and pluralistic societies. On an exuberant note, the Al Qaeda leader exhorted the radicals to overthrow the “atheist regime.” All these add to the grand Al Qaeda design and further raise the prospects of conversion of Xinjiang to a hotbed of radical Islam and terrorism. The onslaught of Pak army in its northwest and the onslaught of the coalition forces in Afghanistan might have pushed the extremist organization Taliban and its patron Al Qaeda to move further deep to Central Asia and beyond to other areas such as Xinjiang. </p>
<p>The Chinese call for international cooperation to fight the terror menace needs to be taken earnestly by global and regional players. The terror menace transcends national boundaries and national interest perimeter; hence, it needs international collaboration to tackle the menace. Though the Shanghai Cooperation Organization has in its agenda fighting terrorism, it is time to further widen the network of anti-terror operation. The Chinese state might be a rising power in international politics to reckon with its widespread economic cooperation networks throughout the world, but the terrorist network is also global in nature with much more complex layers. From north in Russia to south to Central Asia and China, to further south to South Asia, there need to be a collective and commonly agreed network to fight terrorism and religious fundamentalism. </p>
<p>The terror scourge to multiethnic and pluralistic societies need to be tackled with an iron hand, but at the same time the concerns of the minority groups need to be addressed in a humane manner. This dual strategy can work effectively to fight Al Qaeda’s global project of Jehad, in which Xinjiang has recently figured prominently.</blockquote>
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<p>Wouldn&#39;t have anything to do with the Grand Chessboard as I mentioned before and the big 3 that he warns about creating a Eurasian alliance to rival US hegemony in the region?</p>
<p>A matter of months apart all 3 countries facing destabilisation attempts Russia (Georgian war and subsequent terror attacks), China (Tibet and Xinjing preceding the Olympics) and India (Mumbai massacre and British and US efforts to push India in a war against Pakistan). </p>
<p>All this is an effort to destabilise the Eurasian sphere. </p>
<p>F. William Engdahl had written a good review of the strategic importance to Washington’s geo-political strategy in the region and Xinjings importance to Washington to cut oil transit routes from Kazakhstan to China. </p>
<p>Like other groups in the regions and Washington’s other they are on the CIA payroll through NED and USAID.  </p>
<p><blockquote><strong>Uyghur exile organizations, China and Geopolitics</strong> </p>
<p>On May 18 this year, the US-government’s in-house “private” NGO, the NED, according to the official WUC website, hosted a seminal human rights conference entitled East Turkestan: 60 Years under Communist Chinese Rule, along with a curious NGO with the name, the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organisation (UNPO). </p>
<p>The Honorary President and founder of the UNPO is one Erkin Alptekin, an exile Uyghur who founded UNPO while working for the US Information Agency’s official propaganda organization, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty as Director of their Uygur Division and Assistant Director of the Nationalities Services. </p>
<p>Alptekin also founded the World Uyghur Congress at the same time, in 1991, while he was with the US Information Agency. The official mission of the USIA when Alptekin founded the World Uyghur Congress in 1991 was “to understand, inform, and influence foreign publics in promotion of the [USA] national interest…” Alptekin was the first president of WUC, and, according to the official WUC website, is a “close friend of the Dalai Lama.” </p>
<p>Closer examination reveals that UNPO in turn to be an American geopolitical strategist’s dream organization. It was formed, as noted, in 1991 as the Soviet Union was collapsing and most of the land area of Eurasia was in political and economic chaos. Since 2002 its Director General has been Archduke Karl von Habsburg of Austria who lists his (unrecognized by Austria or Hungary) title as “Prince Imperial of Austria and Royal Prince of Hungary.” </p>
<p>Among the UNPO principles is the right to ‘self-determination’ for the 57 diverse population groups who, by some opaque process not made public, have been admitted as official UNPO members with their own distinct flags, with a total population of some 150 million peoples and headquarters in the Hague, Netherlands. </p>
<p>UNPO members range from Kosovo which “joined” when it was fully part of then Yugoslavia in 1991. It includes the “Aboriginals of Australia” who were listed as founding members along with Kosovo. It includes the Buffalo River Dene Nation indians of northern Canada. </p>
<p>The select UNPO members also include Tibet which is listed as a founding member. It also includes other explosive geopolitical areas as the Crimean Tartars, the Greek Minority in Romania, the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (in Russia), the Democratic Movement of Burma, and the gulf enclave adjacent to Angola and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and which just happens to hold rights to some of the world’s largest offshore oil fields leased to Condi Rice’s old firm, Chevron Oil. Further geopolitical hotspots which have been granted elite recognition by the UNPO membership include the large section of northern Iran which designates itself as Southern Azerbaijan, as well as something that calls itself Iranian Kurdistan. </p>
<p>In April 2008 according to the website of the UNPO, the US Congress’ NED sponsored a “leadership training” seminar for the World Uyghur Congress (WUC) together with the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization. Over 50 Uyghurs from around the world together with prominent academics, government representatives and members of the civil society gathered in Berlin Germany to discuss “Self-Determination under International Law.” What they discussed privately is not known. Rebiya Kadeer gave the keynote address. </p>
<p><strong>The suspicious timing of the Xinjiang riots</strong> </p>
<p>The current outbreak of riots and unrest in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang in the northwest part of China, exploded on July 5 local time. </p>
<p>According to the website of the World Uyghur Congress, the “trigger” for the riots was an alleged violent attack on June 26 in China’s southern Guangdong Province at a toy factory where the WUC alleges that Han Chinese workers attacked and beat to death two Uyghur workers for allegedly raping or sexually molesting two Han Chinese women workers in the factory. On July 1, the Munich arm of the WUC issued a worldwide call for protest demonstrations against Chinese embassies and consulates for the alleged Guangdong attack, despite the fact they admitted the details of the incident were unsubstantiated and filled with allegations and dubious reports. </p>
<p>According to a press release they issued, it was that June 26 alleged attack that gave the WUC the grounds to issue their worldwide call to action. </p>
<p>On July 5, a Sunday in Xinjiang but still the USA Independence Day, July 4, in Washington, the WUC in Washington claimed that Han Chinese armed soldiers seized any Uyghur they found on the streets and according to official Chinese news reports, widespread riots and burning of cars along the streets of Urumqi broke out resulting over the following three days in over 140 deaths. </p>
<p>China’s official Xinhua News Agency said that protesters from the Uighur Muslim ethnic minority group began attacking ethnic Han pedestrians, burning vehicles and attacking buses with batons and rocks. &#34;They took to the street...carrying knives, wooden batons, bricks and stones,&#34; they cited an eyewitness as saying. The French AFP news agency quoted Alim Seytoff, general secretary of the Uighur American Association in Washington, that according to his information, police had begun shooting &#34;indiscriminately&#34; at protesting crowds. </p>
<p>Two different versions of the same events: The Chinese government and pictures of the riots indicate it was Uyghur riot and attacks on Han Chinese residents that resulted in deaths and destruction. French official reports put the blame on Chinese police “shooting indiscriminately.” <strong>Significantly, the French AFP report relies on the NED-funded Uyghur American Association of Rebiya Kadeer for its information</strong>. The reader should judge if the AFP account might be motivated by a US geopolitical agenda, a deeper game from the Obama Administration towards China’s economic future. </p>
<p>Is it merely coincidence that the riots in Xinjiang by Uyghur organizations broke out only days after the meeting took place in Yakaterinburg, Russia of the member nations of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, as well as Iran as official observer guest, represented by President Ahmadinejad? </p>
<p>Over the past few years, in the face of what is seen as an increasingly hostile and incalculable United States foreign policy, the major nations of Eurasia—China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan have increasingly sought ways of direct and more effective cooperation in economic as well as security areas. In addition, formal Observer status within SCO has been given to Iran, Pakistan, India and Mongolia. The SCO defense ministers are in regular and growing consultation on mutual defense needs, as NATO and the US military command continue provocatively to expand across the region wherever it can. </p>
<p><strong>The Strategic Importance of Xinjiang for Eurasian Energy Infrastructure</strong> </p>
<p>There is another reason for the nations of the SCO, a vital national security element, to having peace and stability in China’s Xinjiang region. Some of China’s most important oil and gas pipeline routes pass directly through Xinjiang province. Energy relations between Kazkhstan and China are of enormous strategic importance for both countries, and allow China to become less dependent on oil supply sources that can be cut off by possible US interdiction should relations deteriorate to such a point. </p>
<p>Kazak President Nursultan Nazarbayev paid a State visit in April 2009 to Beijing. The talks concerned deepening economic cooperation, above all in the energy area, where Kazkhastan holds huge reserves of oil and likely as well of natural gas. After the talks in Beijing, Chinese media carried articles with such titles as “&#34;Kazakhstani oil to fill in the Great Chinese pipe.&#34; </p>
<p>The Atasu-Alashankou pipeline to be completed in 2009 will provide transportation of transit gas to China via Xinjiang. As well Chinese energy companies are involved in construction of a Zhanazholskiy gas processing plant, Pavlodar electrolyze plant and Moynakskaya hydro electric station in Kazakhstan. </p>
<p>According to the US Government’s Energy Information Administration, Kazakhstan’s Kashagan field is the largest oil field outside the Middle East and the fifth largest in the world in terms of reserves, located off the northern shore of the Caspian Sea, near the city of Atyrau. China has built a 613-mile-long pipeline from Atasu, in northwestern Kazakhstan, to Alashankou at the border of China&#39;s Xinjiang region which is exporting Caspian oil to China. PetroChina’s ChinaOil is the exclusive buyer of the crude oil on the Chinese side. The pipeline is a joint venture of CNPC and Kaztransoil of Kazkhstan. Some 85,000 bbl/d of Kazakh crude oil flowed through the pipeline during 2007. China’s CNPC is also involved in other major energy projects with Kazkhstan. They all traverse China’s Xinjiang region. </p>
<p>In 2007 CNPC signed an agreement to invest more than $2 billion to construct a natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan through Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to China. That pipeline would start at Gedaim on the border of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan and extend 1,100 miles through Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to Khorgos in China&#39;s Xinjiang region. Turkmenistan and China have signed a 30-year supply agreement for the gas that would fill the pipeline. CNPC has set up two entities to oversee the Turkmen upstream project and the development of a second pipeline that will cross China from the Xinjiang region to southeast China at a cost of some $7 billion. </p>
<p>As well, Russia and China are discussing major natural gas pipelines from eastern Siberia through Xinjiang into China. Eastern Siberia contains around 135 Trillion cubic feet of proven plus probable natural gas reserves. The Kovykta natural gas field could give China with natural gas in the next decade via a proposed pipeline. </p>
<p>During the current global economic crisis, Kazakhstan received a major credit from China of $10 billion, half of which is for oil and gas sector. The oil pipeline Atasu-Alashankou and the gas pipeline China-Central Asia, are an instrument of strategic &#39;linkage&#39; of central Asian countries to the economy China. That Eurasian cohesion from Russia to China across Central Asian countries is the geopolitical cohesion Washington most fears. While they would never say so, growing instability in Xinjiang would be an ideal way for Washington to weaken that growing cohesion of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization nations. </p>
<p><em>William Engdahl is the author of Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order.</em></blockquote></p>
<p><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&#38;aid=14327">Washington is Playing a Deeper Game with China</a></p>
<p><blockquote>Under pressure from the United States and international organizations, she was released to exile in March 2005. She was soon elected president of two exile groups, the Uighur American Association, which represents the 1,000 or so Uighurs in the United States, and the World Uighur Congress, an umbrella for 47 groups worldwide, with headquarters in Munich. </p>
<p>Both groups receive much of their funding from the National Endowment for Democracy, a bipartisan organization created and financed by the United States Congress that promotes democracy worldwide. They engage in research and advocacy on human rights issues that affect the Uighur people.</blockquote> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/world/asia/07kadeer.html?_r=2&#38;ref=world">China Points to Another Leader in Exile</a>
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				<title>GregRLawson on "Destabilizing Xinjiang?"</title>
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				<dc:creator>GregRLawson</dc:creator>
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				<description><p>First, Anatoly, notice you put Nightwish video on site.  Interesting, I&#39;ve alaways liked the Gathering, Lacuna Coil, Within Temptation, all similar to Nightwish.</p>
<p>Substantively,over at Spengler&#39;s column an interesting piece.</p>
<p><blockquote>The cover story in this month’s American Conservative–Pat Buchanan’s paleocon platform–is an interview with whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a former Turkish and Farsi translator for the FBI who has been under Federal gag order for several years. I had a peripheral relationship to the intelligence community many years ago–I consulted for the head of plans at the Reagan NSC, Dr. Norman A. Bailey–and I learned not to get involved with spook stories. There simply is no way that an outsider can pick a path through the wilderness of mirrors without getting hopelessly lost. Edmonds is a geyser of allegations about illegal leaks of US classified documents to foreign governments, including Israel’s. Her American Conservative interviewer Philip Girardi summarizes what she has to say as follows:</p>
<p>So we have a pattern of corruption starting with government officials providing information to foreigners and helping them make contact with other Americans who had valuable information. Some of these officials, like Marc Grossman, were receiving money directly. Others were receiving business favors: Pentagon associates like Doug Feith and Richard Perle had interests in Israel and Turkey.</p>
<p>As noted, I am not going to speculate as to the veracity of Edmonds’ story. We never find out the truth until the archives are opened to future generations–if ever. But whether classified documents were leaked to Israel with the connivance of Bush administration officials who happen to be Jewish is a very small part of Edmonds’ story.</p>
<p>Only in passing, and with no elaboration, is the name of Fetallah Gulen mentioned in the American Conservative account. Gulen is the 68-year-old spiritual leader of an Islamist movement that claims to have branches in 80 countries, and–with the help of Turkey’s Islamist government–controls large parts of the Turkish media. Edmonds’ most astonishing allegation, widely publicized over the past several years, is that the CIA sponsored Gulen in cooperation with Saudi and Pakistani partners as an instrument against Russia and China in Central Asia.</p>
<p>In 2008 Gulen, who live in exile in the United States, was denied a Green Card after a Philadelphia hearing. The secular Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported at the time:</p>
<p>Gülen’s financial resources were detailed in the public prosecutor’s arguments, which claimed that Saudi Arabia, Iran, the Turkish government, and the Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, were behind the Gülen movement. It stated that some businessmen in Ankara donated 10 to 70 percent of their annual income to the movement and that it corresponded to $20,000 to $300,000 per year per person. It added that one businessman in Istanbul donated $4-5 million each year and that young people graduating from Gülen’s schools donated between $2,000 and $5,000 each year.</p>
<p>The Russians have always thought that Gulen was sponsored by CIA, and kicked his organization out of their territory in 2002.</p>
<p>A year ago Edmonds told a Turkish blogger:</p>
<p>You’ve got to look at the big picture. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the super powers began to fight over control of Central Asia, particularly the oil and gas wealth, as well as the strategic value of the region.</p>
<p>Given the history, and the distrust of the West, the US realized that it couldn’t get direct control, and therefore would need to use a proxy to gain control quickly and effectively. Turkey was the perfect proxy; a NATO ally and a puppet regime. Turkey shares the same heritage/race as the entire population of Central Asia, the same language (Turkic), the same religion (Sunni Islam), and of course, the strategic location and proximity.</p>
<p>This started more than a decade-long illegal, covert operation in Central Asia by a small group in the US intent on furthering the oil industry and the Military Industrial Complex, using Turkish operatives, Saudi partners and Pakistani allies, furthering this objective in the name of Islam.</p>
<p>This is why I have been saying repeatedly that these illegal covert operations by the Turks and certain US persons dates back to 1996, and involves terrorist activities, narcotics, weapons smuggling and money laundering, converging around the same operations and involving the same actors.</p>
<p>And I want to emphasize that this is “illegal” because most, if not all, of the funding for these operations is not congressionally approved funding, but it comes from illegal activities.</p>
<p>And one last thing, take a look at the people in the State Secrets Privilege Gallery on my website and you will see how these individuals can be traced to the following; Turkey, Central Asia, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia – and the activities involving these countries.</p>
<p><strong>All this would be an oddity except for the allegation that elements of the US government were in cahoots with the Gulen organization in fomenting rebellion by the ethnic Turks of Xinjiang, the Uyghurs. Last summer’s Uyghur riots were viewed with extreme concern by Beijing. Turkey’s Islamist prime minister Erdogan denounced the Chinese government for “genocide” against the Uyghurs, an remarkably overwrought response.</p>
<p>The group of officials whom Edmonds fingered has less to do with Israel than with promoting an Islamist strategy for the US in central Asia. As the cited Turkish blog reports:</p>
<p>Marc Grossman, former State Department #3 and former Turkish ambassador, and one of the key named individuals in Sibel’s case, is currently receiving $1.2 million per annum from Ihlas Holding, a Gulen-linked Turkish conglomerate. Sibel has previously referred to Ihlas as ‘semi-legitimate‘ and ‘alleged shady‘ – and emphasized that Grossman’s current payoff is a result of services performed while he was in office.</p>
<p>Grossman’s predecessor as ambassador in Turkey was Morton Abramowitz – in fact, Grossman actually worked under Abramowitz in Ankara for a number of years. During that period, the US opened an espionage investigation into activities at the embassy involving Major Douglas Dickerson, a weapons procurement specialist for Central Asia. Dickerson and his wife, an FBI translator, later became famous when they tried to recruit Sibel to spy for this criminal network.</p>
<p>Abramowitz, who is not listed in Sibel’s State Secrets Privilege Gallery, wrote a letter in support of Gulen for his immigration case. He has long advocated the use of Islamic fighters in furtherance of US interests, including the Afghan mujaheddin against the Soviets and the Kosovo Liberation Army during the war in the Balkans, acting as an advisor to the Kosovar Albanians.</p>
<p>Another player from Sibel’s Gallery is Enver Yusuf Turani – Prime Minister of East Turkistan, a ‘country’ recognized by only one country, the United States. East Turkistan, aka Xinjiang, is officially a part of China, and home to the Uyghur people and the “Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement,” a UN-nominated terrorist organization “funded mainly by Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network and received training, support and personnel from both the al-Qaeda and the Taliban regime of Afghanistan.” In fact, the Uyghurs constitute a significant percentage of detainees – at least 22 – at Guantanamo Bay since 2001. Five of those have been set free, and were eventually sent to Albania, amid much controversy.</p>
<p>[b]There is deep suspicion in Beijing that some elements of the US government are supporting the efforts of the Gulen movement to destabilize Xinjiang. That is playing with matches near rocket fuel. The one thing Beijing will not tolerate is an effort to sponsor provincial rebellions. That represents an existential threat to China.</p>
<p>The Turkish shift to Islamism and the ascendancy of the Gulen organization in Turkish politics is the last thing that Israel wants. Israel’s longstanding alliance with secular Turkey is in shambles, in a major setback for Israeli foreign policy. The brunt of Edmonds’ allegations involves alleged skullduggery that is profoundly hostile to Israeli interests. Yet Philip Girardi has managed to twist the story into a trivial story about document-peddling to the Israeli embassy.</p>
<p>Again, I do not know the veracity of these allegations, or what the Obama administration presently thinks of such matters. The bulk of Edmonds story refers to former American officials (some of whom happen to have Jewish names, e.g., Morton Abramovitz, and others who do not, e.g., Graham Fuller) who allegedly committed American resources to supporting dangerous Islamists in an attempt to destabilize America’s largest trading partner.</p>
<p>But one thing is certain: the obsessive, paranoid Judeophobia at The American Conservative prompts the magazine to feature allegations of tertiary importance, and ignore what would be (if true) a political scandal of monstrous proportions.</strong></blockquote></p>
<p><a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengler/2009/10/16/more-judeophobic-paranoia-at-pat-buchanans-shop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengler/2009/10/16/more-judeophobic-paranoia-at-pat-buchanans-shop/</a>
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